This online discussion delves into the complex question of societal change, exploring why people often resist change even when it seems beneficial. While acknowledging that systems can be oppressive and limit individual agency, it emphasizes the importance of understanding the psychological factors that prevent people from actively pursuing change. The discussion revolves around a few key points: * **The nature of systemic oppression**: Systems are often designed to maintain power imbalances, limiting individual access to resources and opportunity. This creates a sense of apathy and resignation, making it difficult for individuals to envision or enact meaningful change. * **Psychological barriers to change**: Fear, uncertainty, and lack of agency can all contribute to people's reluctance to embrace change. Even when change seems beneficial, these psychological factors may lead them to prefer the "known" even if it is unfavorable. * **The importance of understanding individual psychology**: While systems certainly play a role in perpetuating inequality, it'is crucial to recognize the complex interplay between individual psychology and societal structures. * **The concept of the “late seed”**: The user, Islam El-Wedgiry, introduces the idea of the "late seed," suggesting that this "seed" may not have the ability to germinate fully due to systemic limitations. It proposes that individuals within such a system might feel they lack agency and therefore choose not to actively seek change. * **The nature of revolution**: The discussion touches upon the tendency for revolutions to ultimately result in reproducing the very systems they aim to dismantle, suggesting the need for deeper reflection on how to achieve lasting and meaningful social change. While no definitive answers are provided, this conversation encourages critical thinking about: * How do we identify and address both the systemic and psychological factors that hinder change? * How can we empower individuals to overcome their perceived limitations and participate actively in shaping a more just society? * What strategies might help move beyond the "late seed" stage, enabling individuals to embrace positive transformation?